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  • AlphaBetaFoxface

    These guys drop a 58 minute EP. DsO drops a 29 minute LP. Defeated Sanity dropped a split with themselves. 2016 isn’t taking the whole formatting shtick too seriously by the looks of things.

    • manimal

      The hell, dude? DsO drops a new album and you only tell me NOW?

  • André Snyde Lopes

    All those people and this is what they come up with?

    • Name’s Dalton

      Too many cooks spoil the broth.

  • The Nerd.

    Baseball is a fantastic sport Huck. And I’m gonna miss it for these next few months, it’s a good thing hockey is on.

    • Diego Molero

      I found baseball extremely boring and I’m from a really baseball-country. To me football (soccer), is the real deal.

      • The Nerd.

        Hockey is the one and only true sport ( even if my beloved Canucks are horrawful this year). But Baseball to me is a close second.

        I’ve tried with World Football but it just bores me to tears.

        • Dr. Wvrm

          Listen man, there’s no more enthralling moment in sports than when the two centerbacks pass the ball back and forth for 30 seconds while the opposing striker halfassedly jogs between them. If you can’t appreciate that, you don’t understand sports.

        • Diego Molero

          I never have watch a hockey game so I can’t really give my opinion (in my country it isn’t televised, and we definitely don’t have hockey in here), but to be honest it does seems like a good sport. Baseball on the other hand… So boring to me.

          • The Nerd.

            If you can find it on YouTube I highly recommend watching a bunch of games.

      • Dr. A.N. Grier

        No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Iain Gleasure

        How do you feel about Rondon playing for West Brom now? Do you think he’d be better suited for a more attacking team?

        • Diego Molero

          In my opinion Rondon is a very good striker, and he has done well on West Brom, but as you said, that team isn’t offensive enough. He scores goals with both West Brom and Venezuela, and let’s be honest, boths teams aren’t exactly good teams. So yes, I think that he would be better in a more attacking team. Also I think that he would be phenomenal in Serie A, perhaps a club like Fiorentina, Lazio or Napoli.
          Also, why are you asking?… I mean, I’m venezuelan so I figure is because of that, but how do you know? And are you a West Brom fan or something?

          • Iain Gleasure

            It was really because you’re Venezuelan. you’re discus says so. I was just curious to learn so more.

          • Diego Molero

            Oh, that’s right haha. Anyway, what do you think? He played very well today, he scored a goal and gived an assist. But that’s why I think he could do even better in a better team. Just an hour ago I read that Napoli want to sing him, that would be very nice.

          • Iain Gleasure

            It’s odd to me that Napoli want him. It’s seems to me that he isn’t fast enough for their kind of game. Napoli is one of Italy’s faster teams. He did do very well today though. I think France or Italy could work very well for him though. fiorentina or Roma might be better than Napoli though.

          • Diego Molero

            Well yes, that is a very good point actually. In France he would be excellent, but that league isn’t as strong as the Serie A, so I prefer that he goes to a team in Italy. I was thinking that Torino would be great for him, since Josef Martinez algo plays there so they would have that connection already, also I don’t believe that Torino is going to be able to keep Belotti on the their team because he is doing an excellent season so far and is very young, so big money there and they would need another striker next season.

          • Iain Gleasure

            Those are all excellent points. Would Rondon and West Brom want more than Torino could pay though? They don’t have the budget that even West Brom does. But Belotti could sell for 15mil or more if he does well this year. If he gets injured then nothing happens though. That’s why fiorentina might be better. They only really have Bernadeschi after this season

          • Diego Molero

            I think that Belotti is worth even more than that, he has already 10 goals in just 11 games, so if he keeps in that form, he’s worth easily 30 millions, plus he is just 22 years old. And Rondon is worth something like 20 millions tops, maybe. But yeah, Fiorentina is even a better team, so that would be very nice. Hopefully that will happen.

          • Iain Gleasure

            Eh, he’s worth alot now but if he fades over the season the price will go down. Plus Italian teams tend to be stingy with transfer fees. You’re not wrong about him selling better because he’s young, but Rondon’s still just 27 and the Italians are willing to keep a good striker longer than most: Pelissier, Totti, Gilardino, Palacio… We’ll see, he might like to stick to West Brom, he’s almost certain of starting there.

          • Diego Molero

            True that, but I really think that Belotti could be world class some day, he has a lot of talent, so I have high hopes with him to be honest. And that is also true, not only strikers, but players in general are in average old in Seria A. And then again you are right, maybe he just want to stay at West Brom and all this speculation is nonsense haha. Time will tell.

          • Iain Gleasure

            I’m always wary of calling any Italian world class because they usually don’t do well outside of Italy and right now especially, Italy isn’t the best so a world class player would probably leave. But who knows, Italy does have some exceptional talent coming up right now.

          • Diego Molero

            Well, yes. It’s rare that an italian considered a world class plays well outside Italy, right know I can only think of Verratti. But as you said, there IS some exceptional talent in Italy right know: Donnarumma, Locatelli, Romagnoli, Rugani, Berardi, Belotti, Benassi, Bernardeschi, Perin. Future looks good for Italy if those players continue to develop as expected.

          • Iain Gleasure

            That’s true. weirdly for Italy their biggest issue going forward seems to be midfield where its usually been strikers. We’ll see, what about Venezuela? Any new talent breaking out in the South American leagues?

          • Diego Molero

            You think? I mean, Del Piero, Totti, Baggio, Cassano, Luca Toni, great strikers over the years. What has always been extremely consistent in Italy is the defense thoug, always world class and the best keeper ever (Buffon, of course).
            As for Venezuela, there are actually some young players that seem to be pretty exiting. My favorite talent right know is Juan Pablo Añor, he plays as attacking midfield on Malaga, great player and he’s only 22yo, if you don’t know him, you should check out some videos of him (see the goal he scored vs Argentina).
            Adalberto Peñaranda is another great player, 19yo, striker, plays for Udinese, very quick and skillful, he had a great season last year with Granada on La Liga, unfortunately in Udinese he does’t play at all, so in January he should be on the move to other team (I hope).
            Jhon Murillo play as winger on Tonelda (Portugal), but he belongs to Benfica, he’s 21yo and very good, also quick and skillful as Peñaranda.
            Those are the three best young players from Venezuela, but as you can see they don’t actually play in the Venezuela league, and neither of the best players overall from Venezuela play IN Venezuela, our league isn’t very good to be honest, is one of the worst from South America actually (the same goes with our National team, we have never been to a World Cup, and the next one on 2018 won’t be an exception).
            Overall there are some good players in our national league, but the ones that are really good all play in Europe or some other South American league (for example Rómulo Otero who plays in Brasil), because none want to play here if they can go to Europe (and they have every reason for wanting that, specially now with our country’s situation).
            What about you, where are you from?

          • Iain Gleasure

            If Canadian and soccer here is tricky. We’ve had good players- Owen Hargreaves

          • Diego Molero

            Didn’t have a clue that those players were canadian or at least elegible to play for Canada, but I totally undestand your frustraition with the organization, Venezuela also has some excellent players that could have played for our contry but because they never were contacted they dind’t, but Falcao, El Shaarawy, Krychowiak, Danny, they all at some point could have played for Venezuela but never received the call. Montreal and Toronto in the MLS semifinal is impressive, as you said, the core isn’t canadian, but still. I know Osorio, he’s good, Doneil Henry don’t know who he is but I will keep an eye for those two.
            I just search on Google to see who Liam Millar was, and what I read was really impressive, he’s just 17 and already in Liverpool, I even read something about a hat-trick that he scored on his debut, hope he continues to do well. I assume that you are around the same age as Liam if you played with him. And that he was “too small” is really foolish, I mean don’t they know who Messi is and his story? But hell, at least now he is in Liverpool, and let’s be honest, is better that way for him.

          • Iain Gleasure

            I was playing with him when I was 9 and 10 so 8 odd years ago now. He was playing a year up in house league(rec soccer!) and in an academy. (That’s another thing, academies in Canada are usually for profit and not affiliated with a pro club. So you pay them and there is no actual route from them to a senior team.) As for too small, I tell you it is very common.

            What about El Sha though? I thought he was Italian and Egyptian and had no Venezuelan connection? And Falcao I thought was just Columbian?

          • Diego Molero

            I see. In Venezuela you have the acadamies that are free and are affiliated with pro clubs, but it’s really hard to get in. There are others where you pay but aren’t pro clubs. You still play? I’m also around that age (17).
            El Sha was born in Italy, has Swiss-Italian mother and Egyptian father, but he lived here for some time in his youth. Falcao also lived here for almost all of his youth, he even played baseball here and almost become a professional but he decided to play football insted, but he has said that he likes Venezuela a lot and would love to play here some day (but I seriously doubt that is goint to happen).

          • Iain Gleasure

            Crazy, that I never knew about El Sha and Falcao.
            So far as playing goes, no longer for me. Got tired of being told I was to small a keeper. So now I ref and I’m good. I just won the Youth Ref of the Year. So hopefully I’ll find soccer glory that way, become FIFA. other Canadians have done it.

          • Diego Molero

            I was also a keeper and got tired of been held responsable for all of the goals that we got scored (my team sucked really bad, so it really wasn’t my fault), so around 4 years ago I switched to midfield, and got very good at it. In 2013 I moved to Mexico and played for Pachuca and Pumas, but I got really discouraged because I almost never play there, not because I wasn’t good enoug, it was simply for the fact that I wasn’t mexican so I moved back to Venezuela and played here until recently, but it wasn’t the same for me anymore, just this week I decide to stop playing in a team and dedicade myself to studying and other stuff. I will continue to play of course, but just for fun.
            And congrats on that award, really impresive man. Good luck with becoming a FIFA ref, that would be truly awesome.

          • Iain Gleasure

            Wow that’s amazing! it’s a unfortunate you couldn’t go further but now you have something else. I never reached that level admittedly, but I hope to as a ref in the next few years. I hope your education works out, I’m just in first year university. Kinesiology, the study of human movement and health. Rather a good thing for a athlete to know! Are you in university or secondary school in Venezuela? I thought that they were both government run there. And that there’s been serious issues with power and food supplies… it’s not something we get much news on in Canada.

          • Diego Molero

            Yeah, playing professional football was my goal, but know I’m focusing on other things. I’ll graduate from secondary school on february 2018, can’t wait for that day to come haha. Kinesiology seems very interesting, and becoming a ref really sounds super awesome. I want to study either psychology (and dedicade myself on working only with athletes, sport psychology), or audio engineering, one of those two. And yes, our country is really bad, and it has been for the last 17 years or so, but specially in the last couple of years an onward the situation has become really, _really_ bad. It’s really extense to explain all that is happening, but if you’re curious to learn more about it, there is plenty of information on the Internet. If you don’t want to do that, on resume: we’re pretty fucked up right know.

          • Iain Gleasure

            I guess alot of my curiousity with you came from the fact you obviously have regular internet access and I thought that was quite unusual in Venezuela. I hope you do well in Psych, I can’t stand in myself honestly. Canada likes to talk about and Freud and Jung wayyyyy to much and ignore the biology of the brain. I imagine sport psych would be pretty fun.

          • Diego Molero

            Well, that really depends, I mean, I’m no rich guy or anything like that, but I do manage to have the basics and live in a good zone of my city (Caracas), but I can say the same of other people. But having Internet is relativily common actually. I undestand that hahaha, that’s actually why I’m not so sure that I ended up studying Psychology, because there are subjects that I will obviously have to learn that I’m not interested in knowing, but sport psych really is fun as you said, when I was younger I went to one for a few months and really like it, that’s why I’m interested in studying that. But I think I will ended up deciding for audio engineering.

          • Iain Gleasure

            Well I wish you well in whatever you get into. I keep seeing ads on the subway for audio engineering so maybe you should move here next. We’ve got a good 8 venues for metal plus the bars. We’ve got really expensive beer, a familiarly fiscally irresponsible government, and an awful lot of soccer even if it is bad. So come to Canada! It’s not nearly as cold as people say. ;)

          • Diego Molero

            Hahaha I would actually love to do that, Canada seems like a really nice place, and I love the cold, in here is hot as hell. Thanks man, you too with your kinesiology and as a ref, hope you make it to FIFA.

          • Iain Gleasure

            Oh Shit mate, Fidel Castro just died. How might this shake things up in Venezuela? Cuba provides a ton of your doctors and a bunch of trade don’t they? Think this might shake up Venezuela? It probably wont really do much to us unless the US now likes Cuba with him dead.

          • Diego Molero

            Yeah man, that was a little unexpected, but hell, the guy was 90 years old. And I really don’t know if it’s going to affect us in a bad way (it cerntainly won’t do us any good I believe), and honestly we are so bad right now that I don’t know what else could happen to us, but I really hope that nothing happens. As for Canada, I don’t think that Fidel’s dead is going to do anything to you people. Plus Raul Castro is still alive, so I don’t think that the US is going to “like” Cuba now. Although, with Trump who knows for sure…
            But hey, thanks for asking man, very considered of you.

          • Iain Gleasure

            I hope for the best. Hopefully things only get better for you and Venezuela. Lord knows what it getting any worse would do… Be well my friend.

          • Diego Molero

            Really appreciate it man, thanks. Be well you too Iain.

          • Iain Gleasure

            Just so far as Italy’s strikers go, they’ve had good ones, even great ones but they’ve rarely had the best in the world. The closest they got recently was probably Baggio in ’94. Other than that, Totti and Toni were good but never really great for Italy and neither have been great domestically for a long while. Del Piero was class too, but there were such exceptional attackers around at the same time: Shevchenko, Kaka, Torres was good then, and others. And as for other Italians, most of their best was in the 50’s or earlier. Inzaghi is the best modern one other than Del Piero for goals, but much as I love him, he was a poacher like Klose. So Italy’s strikers are probably the single weakest facet of them, yes.

          • Diego Molero

            Baggio in 94′ really was world class, great player. Luca Toni had a great season last year, 22 goals with Hellas Verona at age 38, that was impressive, but I do get your point. I have a soft spot for Del Piero because I’m a big Juventus fan, totally forgot about Inzaghi thoug. But it is true, over the past years Italy don’t have world class players on all positions, but what suprises me is how well they always do on all competitions, I mean look at the team that finished second on the 2012’s Euro, and specially the team from the 2016’s Euros, that team was really poor in names, but they achieve quarter finals and were eliminated in the hands of none other than Germany (and in penalties). They always manage to do well with or without world class players.

          • Iain Gleasure

            It’s true they’ve always been very disciplined and united. That’s a hallmark of Italian football. It’s also been kinds bad becasue if you question it or break the status quo you get alot of issues. Gourcuff may have been at least bisexual at Milan and may have got thrown out because of it. Meanwhile Balotelli, is just Balo really.

          • Diego Molero

            Yes, always, that is why I have always like and respect Italy. What’s with Gourcuff thoug? Don’t know what you are saying there. And as for Balo, he is crazy haha, such a waste of talent. At least he’s doing great in Niza, hopefully he continues that way.

          • Iain Gleasure

            Basically when Yohann Gourcuff was at Milan about 10 years ago now, he fell afoul of the team. It’s a tight group so the details never came out. But, the main idea was that he liked some of the guys and said so. And Gattuso especially apparently were not ok with it and got him sent away. they supposedly wouldn’t play with him.

            more happily, Balo IS doing well now thought. As a Milan fan I’m glad to see him finding his way a little more. And hey, he’s still 26 there is still time to carve a great career.

          • Diego Molero

            Never knew about that from Gourcuff and Milan, that really sucks, specially because Gourcuff was a very promising player.
            Ahh, Milan fan, eh? Recent years have been difficult, but this year they have improved. And yes, Balo still has plenty of time, and a tremendous amount of talent really.

  • Dr. Wvrm

    “Misplaced love for baseball.”

    Grier ain’t the only doc sharpening his scalpel right now.

  • Hideous destructor

    I am a big fan of these guys. I, Vigilante and (Mankind) The Crafty Ape are both fantastic albums, but the last ep was less than stellar. Sounds like this might be more of the same, but I’ll check it out anyway.

  • SuzyC

    CBP have yet to release a record I don’t like. Some are better than others — I, Vigilante comes to mind — but there’s ALWAYS something to love. Their rendition of “Echoes” is cool b-cuz in Part 2 they slip in the Tornadoes’ “Telstar” (I love that song) and PF’s “Childhood’s End”.

  • The Unicorn

    Very good CD. Enjoy it quite a bit.

  • Eldritch Elitist

    “Think of Swans on a Pink Floyd binge”

    Jesus Huck, you could’ve at least bought me dinner first.

  • Sophocles

    Nope. Moonsorrow’s Tulimyrsky is the worlds longest EP, clocking at 1:08:00

  • Arikael

    I have to disagree, for me this is a solid 3 or even a 3.5.
    Sure it is too long and some songs drag on and on without doing anything (looking at you, dead imperial bastards).
    and while I like diverse albums the switch in styles from song to song makes the album sometimes feel disconnected.

    But still, it’s a good album especially for rainy days in fall ;)
    And I really love “goodbye then” and “rotten memories”

  • Bart the Repairman

    This is my first time listening to this band (somehow they never appeared on my way), and I’m pleased by the gilmourish vibe of the vocals. Sadly, this is the only thing here that pleases me.