A demon’s skull, shattered via a bullet between the eyes. America’s Demon Hunter certainly have some blunt imagery, and aren’t shy whatsoever about their faith. I don’t mind being preached at, being a fan of Rage Against the Machine and their absurdist politics and Behemoth’s cool death metal saturated with Satanic sophistry, so Demon Hunter’s blatant Christianity doesn’t bother me a whit. Overcome is the band’s eighth studio record, and the follow-up to 2014’s Extremist. While I doubt that Demon Hunter is particularly popular around these parts, Overcome is a big record in 2017 and should be given some attention in the form of a review from AMG’s most overrated philosopher.

For one reason or another, Demon Hunter has been moving more and more towards the sound of later Soilwork in some sense over the years. This is not pejorative, but it has dialed down their intensity a wee bit in favor of more coherent, sharper, and hookier compositions. Overcome represents another step in this direction, channeling the simplicity of Stabbing the Drama, the big melodic hooks of the good parts of latter day In Flames, some hints of Dark Tranquility, and the influence of massive arena bands like Disturbed. Demon Hunter wisely avoids being too sugary or melodramatic for the vast majority of the record, and Ryan Clark’s vocals aren’t whiny whatsoever; Bjorn Strid clearly played a major influence on his pipes, and Clark consistently does right by the songs by not over- or under-singing his lines.

Outlive succeeds in crafting hooky songs that bring Swedish melodicism, modern American burliness, and hard rock structuring together remarkably well. Opening one-two punch “Trying Times” and “Jesus Wept” see Demon Hunter completely in their element, building tension and exploiting Clark’s constantly improving clean vocals in the former and the latter being a thrashy Swedish-American number with instrumental instead of vocal hooks taking center stage. “Patience” begins on soft piano keys and proceeds to sound like a newer Dark Tranquility song for a short time before Demon Hunter introduce some Thranenkind into the verse, much to my surprise. This all works within Outlive’s established sound, which rears its head in the prechorus and chorus to great effect. “One Less” is the most punishing tune here, and has some Dimebag influenced playing in the refrain that serves it well. The whole song is well-written, memorable, satisfying, and suits its position near the end of Outlive perfectly.

While the direction Demon Hunter has taken here succeeds far more often than not, there are a few minor quibbles I have with Outlive. Chief amongst these is the almost too cheesy “One Step Behind,” which is basically a power ballad with a new American metal vibe. It’s not a bad song by any means, but it certainly pales a bit in comparison to every other song here. Demon Hunter merge their burly material with their extremely accessible stuff expertly throughout, but “One Step Behind” feels like a slight move too far in the direction of the latter. If I was feeling particularly nitpicky, the wordless singing at the tail end of the chorus in “Died in my Sleep” toes the lactose overload line a bit too closely, but it’s not hugely detrimental nor anything that sinks an otherwise good song.

I’ve spent an inordinate amount of time listening to Outlive, and I have yet to grow bored of it. The production is thick, modern, and tasty, with each instrument being audible and pleasing to the ear. I couldn’t touch on every highlight here due to spatial constraints, but suffice to say if you enjoy the sound Demon Hunter traffics in, you’ll have plenty of fun with Outlive and keep it in rotation for a good long while. This isn’t the heaviest thing you’ll hear this year, this month, this week, or likely even today, but that doesn’t have a bearing on the quality of the music. While it may be a largely straightforward and unchallenging record, there’s something compelling about Outlive that kept me happily coming back.

Occam’s Razor (or, if you prefer, Aquinas’s non-superfluity principle) dictates that the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one. Applying this to Demon Hunter’s latest leads me to conclude that this compelling aspect is quality music, well-constructed songs, and a consistent ear for melody on behalf of the band. Very good records are simply very good records, and Outlive fits that bill to a tee.


Rating: 3.5/5.0
Format Reviewed: 1411 kbps Compact Disc
Label: Solid State Records
Websites: demonhunter.net | facebook.com/demonhunter
Releases Worldwide: March 31st, 2017

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  • savafreak

    Now you are reviewing/giving Nu Metal/Malcore/Metalcore “music” high rating on this site. pfffft

    • Frost15

      Do not overreact dude, Demon Hunter is a decent band.

      • Sean Sky

        Pretty sure the comment was tongue-in-cheek because people have gotten their panties in a twist in the past when something borders on being “not metal enough”.

        *edit* then again I could be wrong…

      • savafreak

        Didn’t say they were bad, just cant see them as a Metal band, there are many good artists out there, just cant the relevancy in reviewing them here

        • Sean Sky

          They’re clearly a metal band. Don’t pull that trve crap.

          • savafreak

            if that chorus sung in the middle is METAL, you might as well call Papa Roach, Bullet for my Valentine, Disturbed, Coal Chamber, Incubus, Linkin Park and Nickleback Metal also! Damn it, I hate this who was first egg/chicken argument

          • manimal

            All of those contain elements of metal, no matter how little merit some, (or all of them) might seem have. I’d say that each of those would receive a fair (if harsh) review if their promoters sent AMG promos. If they did something noteworthy that would be mentioned as well. But I’d guess that they generally don’t send promos, because this blog’s readership doesn’t intersect with their target market.

            There’s probably an AMG-themed dartboard in most big-label boardrooms, which coincidentally found their collective ways there right around the time he reviewed Amaranthe for the first time.

          • Where did you obtain our scoring rubric? That’s top secret!

          • From the locked room in the basement. Never leave the key under the doormat. http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/351b0be696cf603fdb6b5b7e3cc5c08d1a6c1861ea0403ac09d96bb87d1b5c17.jpg

          • Sean Sky

            How is this the chicken or the egg debate? I don’t think you understand the concept of that one lol.

          • AndySynn

            I’m not convinced that “understanding” is his strong suit.

          • savafreak

            It means that it is an endless and pointless debate no one would reach a conclusion over it !

          • Sean Sky

            It’s not a pointless debate, though. Granted, you’re entitled to your own opinions on the subject but their are objective qualities to what makes something metal. Music can be more or less metal to any degree on that spectrum but they’re still on the spectrum. Similar to another review on this site last year with the latest Sum 41 album, which does actually contain elements of metal, and thus was reviewed.

          • That is true, but where to draw the line? Pop with elements of metal ain’t exactly metal. A band has to reach a certain degree on that spectrum before I’d call them metal.

            I was listening to a Norwegian radio station named Radio Rock the other day. In between rock that actually rocks came grunge and sugarcoated boyband’ish shait, and I thought to myself; “only rock is rock”.

            Within the good old boundaries of bm, the only acceptable forms of crossover was with other extremes, suck as thrash. Anything else was quickly labeled untrue.

            These borders are manmade, of course, and can as such be redefined. The question is; do we want to? I use Encyclopaedia Metallum as a rule of thumb. They’re about as strict as me when it comes to what is metal and not.

          • Rüdiger Thiede

            I hear ya man, the thing with Demon Hunter is that they’ve mellowed a lot over the years. Their first album had almost no clean singing on it apart from two ballads, one being the album closer. And I like their ballads, but even I was disappointed with the balance on Outlive. It’s a bit too clean in my opinion.

            On their better balanced albums, a mellow ballad is only for contrast like soft rain after a thunderstorm. Outlive has gone too far in that softer direction for me. I thought I’d like an album with less harsh vocals and more ballads, but now that I have it, I can appreciate the balance in their earlier albums more.

            Re: “legitim.” Auf Englisch sagt man “legitimate” :)

          • [not a Dr]

            The egg came first. There were eggs long before there were chicken (or vertebrates). Chicken eggs would have appeared later, since you need a chicken to lay one.. The first egg from which a chicken hatched would have been lain by a proto-chicken, whatever that was (ask Kronos, he may know). Chicken-egg debate: closed.
            (note: I am perfectly aware that very few people care http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d6654cc173e7911c20b221dc5b2977694e07d385acd8e24943fce9ea71961311.jpg )

          • Belgian Tom’s Hat Trick

            Wanna call Ghost metal? I do…

          • [not a Dr]

            It was the egg.

          • Reese Burns

            I would say all of those bands, with the exception of Nickelback and Incubus, are metal. I’m by no means saying that they’re GOOD metal bands, but they are objectively metal. And if metalcore getting a good review bothers you, an easy solution is to not listen to it. It’s one thing to voice an opinion that AMG happens to review too much of a certain genre, that’s how I feel about post metal, but complaining that something got a good review simply because you dislike its genre is something else entirely.

          • Okay, they’re metal. If Pussy Metal is a legitim classification :P

        • Belgian Tom’s Hat Trick

          AMG reviewed Alcest’s latest. You’re saying Demon Hunter is less metal than them. AMG mixes it up and I like variety and finding new bands that I’ve never heard. Found many of them right here. Read AMG’s articles on subjective vs. objective. Pretty sure you can apply those articles to the subjective nature of what is considered heavy and not just to what is good or bad music.

        • TLFernandes

          is wardruna metal?

    • Drew Music

      They’re not doing it ‘now,’ they’ve been pretty broad with their review selections since roughly forever, and a good album is a good album whatever genre it’s marketed as. ‘A rose by any other name’ and all that. I don’t have any real thoughts on the albums merit, myself, but if someone at AMG took the time both to listen to it and to write it a positive (and well-done) review, then what exactly is the pffffft-able offense here?

      • savafreak

        It’s a free world man, i can bitch about thing you know, this is how things change you know, by being opinionated !

        • Drew Music

          As long as you know that you’re just bitching, I suppose.

        • Belgian Tom’s Hat Trick

          Sounds as if you’re being opinionated to keep things the same.

          • [not a Dr]

            So… he’s changing the definition of change?

          • Belgian Tom’s Hat Trick

            Maybe It came across incorrectly, but I meant he was being opinionated to keep things the way HE wants them and that is not what change is.

    • They gave us free tickets to the Vatican for a positive review.

      • savafreak

        Just the Vatican? it seems like you’ve got a free ticket in the front raw in Heaven, to sit with Jesus himself for this review!

        • Name’s Dalton

          Yawn

        • Name’s Dalton

          Quick! Somebody post a review of something laden with Satanism. I demand equal time!

          • savafreak

            hmmm, someone gonna have his period soon

          • Exitium

            Go read just about any review for Don’t Break the Oath.

          • [not a Dr]

            I agree. YMIO about Abigail should do.

    • Diabolus_in_Muzaka

      New Lady Gaga is a solid 2.0 at best, not going to bother with that one. Carly Rae Jepsen, on the other hand…

      • manimal

        Solid twos can be very satisfying.

      • TLFernandes

        video with tom is nice

    • basenjibrian

      Bieber! Bieber has new tattoos. That alone deserves a review!

    • TLFernandes

      nu metal can’t be good??? pop can’t be good??? are u a kid?

  • Jason

    Definitely hear the Soilwork in there. Still, I’d rather just listen to Soilwork.

  • Akerblogger

    In my teens I remember having the song “Undying” from 2005’s Triptych on constant repeat as I played Runescape and watched ‘The most extreme wrestling moves’ compilations on YouTube.

    I had always grouped these guys with Atreyu, Killswitch, and all the other angsty bands from back then. However I still listen to “Undying” now and again; it still holds up for whatever reason.

    Your review has piqued my groove-trest and I’ll give this a sincere listen. Thanks Diabolus.

  • AndySynn

    Always had a real soft spot for these guys, even if (on their best day) their albums are usually around 40% filler.

    • Drew Music

      Took the words right outta my… fingers?

    • Death_Black_Metal_Fanatic

      I agree. Even their best albums have several filler songs.

  • Death_Black_Metal_Fanatic

    I have listened to this album probably a dozen times now, and I can’t escape the feeling of disappointment. I think it has 3 really good songs, and the rest are average or worse. I’ve been a fan of theirs since their first album, and I was expecting this one to be up there with The Triptych, Storm the Gates of Hell, and True Defiance. However, I think it may be their 2nd most worst album overall. Only above The World Is A Thorn. That one did not click with me at all except for maybe a song or 2. I’m not saying this album SUCKS, because it doesn’t, but the majority of it feels stale/uninspired/generic and is definitely is a big letdown from what I was expecting.

    • lennymccall

      I’m a huge fan as well and if you hadn’t said you listened a dozen times already I’d say it’s a grower and to give it a chance. Cause for me I was real disappointed with it for the first couple listens and then it clicked and I started getting songs stuck in my head, needed to go back and hear it again and so on till I realized I really liked it. Far from their best record, still World is a Thorn for me, but it’s a solid DH release.

      • Death_Black_Metal_Fanatic

        Yeah I don’t know. Like I said I don’t think it’s pure trash, just A LOT of filler on this one. Extremist was 50% filler also in my opinion, but the other half was KILLER! I just think they went too far in the number of “softer” songs that were included on this album. I know all of their albums have a few of those, and that’s cool. I like some of them. Dead Flowers, Carry Me Down, etc. If someone would’ve told me that Outlive was a “rarities and B-sides” album, I would’ve believed them after I listened to it, because that’s what it sounds like to me. I really like Jesus Wept, Cold Winter Sun is catchy and cool, Cold Blood is good, and I guess Half As Dead is OKAY, but the rest of the songs just do nothing for me. Surprising to me that you say The World Is a Thorn is their best work. I consider it their worst. Not shitting on your opinion, to each their own. That is the only album of theirs that I don’t own. I bought it, listened to it 5-6 times, sold it on eBay. They totally missed the mark on that one.

        • lennymccall

          Yeah it’s probably cause I really prefer their more melodic ballads. Never though they were what you’d call heavy, I reserve that mood for different bands.

          • Death_Black_Metal_Fanatic

            Gotcha.

    • Rüdiger Thiede

      I agree, it’s a bit generic-sounding as an album, though there are good songs on it. Still, that’s the case for all of their albums that I own (though I don’t have all of them yet). They seem to settle into a groove, and that’s what that album’s going to sound like. Songs more or less radio-length, no real overall album structure. And there’s nothing wrong with that, though it does mean there’s no compelling reason to get the whole album every time as opposed to picking out the songs you like on iTunes. I still get the album, because I like having complete albums, but yeah.

      (Did I say “album” enough times? Album. Now it sounds funny.)

      • Death_Black_Metal_Fanatic

        Which ones do you not own yet?

        • Rüdiger Thiede

          Triptych, Gates of Hell, and True Defiance. So by some miracle I think I managed to miss out specifically on the best ones, based on what some folks are saying :P

          • Death_Black_Metal_Fanatic

            HOLY SHIT!!!!! Yep, those are their 3 best albums for sure in my opinion. I would say that if you like their other albums, you need to buy those IMMEDIATELY. Amazon actually has the cd’s for cheaper than iTunes charges for the album downloads. I would highly recommend getting them.

          • Rüdiger Thiede

            OK, will do. Thanks for the tip!

          • Drew Music

            Tripytch was as solid as they get in my book, and the artwork is pretty sick as well. There are certainly heavier, faster, trver bands out there, but Demon Hunter have always been fairly dependable. You’re not gonna find (what I would call) a 5.0 album by Demon Hunter, but they more than get the job done, especially their more ballad-y stuff.
            Happy hunting!

          • Rüdiger Thiede

            Thanks, man! Out of interest, what would you consider 5.0 albums? I’m looking for some new recommendations at the moment.

          • Drew Music

            That is such a difficult question to commit a definite answer to… I don’t think I’ve ever stopped and tried to remember what, if any, albums I’ve heard and could call flawless without picking my own opinion apart. Lateralus by Tool has been a lifelong 5.0 for me and the only one I can ever call to mind immediately, there’s no way that’s the only 5.0 I’ve found though. I have to look through a couple different folders/attempt to recall various bands and albums, but I do wanna get back to you after some digging, if for no other reason than to know for myself.
            In the meantime, what would *you* consider 5.0 albums?

          • Rüdiger Thiede

            I’ll check that one out, thanks!

            My 5.0 albums … as you say, every time you have a perfect album, you find fault with it sooner or later. I’d consider “Celestial Completion” (Becoming the Archetype) very close, though. 4.9 maybe? It was my first actually heavy album, so I have a soft spot for it. But the track “Cardiac Rebellion” (towards the end of the album) is a bit difficult to take seriously.

            “Pale Communion” (Opeth) – I find no fault in it, but you have to be in a really specific mood for it. Same goes for “Maps of Non-Existent Places” (Thank You Scientist). And “Phobia” (Breaking Benjamin), plebeian though it may be. These aren’t exactly HEVY METL though.

            “Wovenwar” (Wovenwar) would have been close, but goes on a bit towards the end. I’d have made it a song or two shorter.

            Oh, and “Skop, Skiet, En Donner” (Van Coke Kartel), but that’s rock and not in English, so.

            Yeah I know, my taste is faulty :P

          • Drew Music

            There is no such thing as faulty taste, if you like it then you like it and you’re right to do so, whatever it may be. My own list is fairly untrve as well, but I stand by all of my picks. Everything on my list, to be included at the end of this little bit of babbling, strikes me as stand-out amongst the bands respective genre-buddies and has stuck with me since my initial listening experience. I’m sure some people may question the validity of my choices, but they’s my choices yo, and they be as follows, in no particular ranking/order

            Tool – Lateralus
            Uneven Structure – Februus
            Parabelle – Reassembling the Icons
            Mos Def – The Ecstatic
            Pearl Jam – Ten, Versus
            Dark Tranquillity – Character
            Death Cab for Cutie – Transatlanticism
            Katatonia – Night is the New Day, The Fall of Hearts
            Pink Floyd – The Final Cut
            Ulcerate – Shrines of Paralysis
            Dodecahedron – Kwintessens
            Meshuggah – ObZen
            Bruce Springsteen – Born to Run
            Flyleaf – Memento Mori
            In Flames – The Jester Race

          • Drew Music

            I’m already realizing I missed a few, but I don’t think I have the mental energy required to compile a complete, ‘accurate’ reflection of my 5.0 picks. I guess I’m just Mildly Upset Metal Guy.

          • Rüdiger Thiede

            Well hey, I asked, so I’ll have no reason to complain. Thanks for the list, I’ll check these out!

          • Drew Music

            Again, the list was incomplete from the get-go, but the glaring exclusion of Agalloch just won’t let me be, largely because I honestly believe every full length of theirs to be a 5.0, excluding The Serpent and The Sphere but including the oft shat-upon Ashes Against the Grain. Really, if I had to choose one group as being THE best metal band, gun to my head and all that, Agalloch would be/have been (sigh… RIP) my choice.

          • Rüdiger Thiede

            Nice! Listening to them right now and wow, they know how to build atmosphere

          • Drew Music

            While I’m emboldened by the bottle and driven to share greatness with erbody, I must risk my trve cred and posit both Modern Day Prodigal Son, by Jason Aldean, and Past the Point of Rescue by Hal Ketchum as additional 5.0’s for me. They both belong to the dreaded C-word realm of music, but I apologize for nothing. There is soooo much music to be enjoyed out there, limiting oneself to a single genre is just fucking dumb.

          • Rüdiger Thiede

            That was brave of you. I’m keeping records of all these recommended albums, so your mistakes have now been immortalized :P

          • Drew Music

            I’m just glad it was coherent, back when I still had a Facebook I was notorious for similar alcohol-induced rants with much less attention given to spelling and punctuation. What fun that was to wake up to…
            Really, I’m almost proud of this.

          • Reese Burns

            My list of perfect 5.0. Albums is pretty short. Avenged Sevenfold’s Nightmare, Opeth’s Blackwater Park and Drudkh’s Autumn Aurora are the only three. There are some others that I suspect will eventually make the list, though they’re too new for me to comfortably call perfect. Those being Bloom by Caligula’s Horse, Sleep at the Edge of the Earth by Wilderun, and Four Phantoms by Bell Witch.

          • Drew Music

            Blackwater Park was another glaring omission for me, I really don’t know that I could make a full list for myself if I tried. I don’t think I’ve ever heard/even heard of Bell Witch, but I shall check them out immediately.

          • Reese Burns

            Bell Witch are an intense funeral doom band. Four Phantoms actually got a 2.5 (maybe even a 2.0., I’m having trouble remembering) on here, which will forever be something I bitch about. But I gave it a listen based on the beautiful cover art, and I was totally sucked in. It’s a record that’s over an hour long, but to me it seems to go by in a blink, even though the music’s slow as fuck. They also manage to make massive soundscapes with just a drummer, and bassist/vocalist. There are absolutely no guitars. If you’re into funeral doom, I can’t recommend them enough. A7X is definitely gonna be the one on the list people take most issue with, and I get that, but as for the other potential list contender, Caligula’s Horse, I really recommend them as well. They play absolutely beautiful prog metal and even made AMG’s top 10 of 2015 list. Hopefully you enjoy!

          • Drew Music

            Man your list is your list, if you like your own picks without trashing anyone else’s then haaaaail to the king. I lost interest in A7X after the self-titled album, but it’s not like I don’t think they can play their instruments better than I can.
            There are no wrong choices and trveness is bvllshit; I can spend hours looping Dancers To A Discordant System by Meshuggah on repeat (and do all the time, that song is like the Drew Music anthem) and yet I wear my Flyleaf tattoo on my sleeve with the same amount of love for the muziks.
            I’ll definitely be checking out Bell Witch after that, funeral doom done right is rare but crushing when it happens and I’m always on the hunt for more, thanks for the heads up!

  • undead_toaster

    Really liked their stuff up through Storm the Gates of Hell and some of The World is a Thorn and then kind of lost interest. Demon Hunter and Becoming the Archetype got me into metal.

    Was surprised to see this reviewed here; I may give it a listen now.

    • undead_toaster

      Also “Aquinas’s non-superfluity principle”, very nice

    • Rüdiger Thiede

      Aha! Another person converted to the Good News of Metal by BTA :)

  • Paul VH

    If AMG can give folk bands like Darkher a good review then I see no reason why a Demon Hunter review seems out of place.
    Things I look for in a good metal band are all present with Demon Hunter.
    Big riffs, great vocals, and these guys know how to write a great song…..that last one alone puts them ahead of a lot of forgettable releases I’ve heard lately.
    From a big DH fan….Outlive is solid…..not their best……far from their worst……which is better than most.

    • Belgian Tom’s Hat Trick

      Agreed… a good song is a good song.

    • Kryopsis

      Can you clarify what a favourable Darkher review has to do with Demon Hunter?

      • Paul VH

        Just saying that if people feel Demon Hunter doesn’t belong on this site because they’re not “metal” enough then neither should bands like Darkher who have almost zero elements of metal in their sound.
        Although I like both bands.

  • You wot m8?

    Christo-metal with Disturbed and Soilwork namedrops in the review?

    Ewww.

  • A Feed From Cloud Mountain

    “Cold Winter Svn”

    My expectations were not met based on that spelling.

    0/kvlt

    • Rüdiger Thiede

      Ha! Yeah, the font they chose for this album has a “U” as a “V.” At least one poor confused fan on their Facebook tried to correct their spelling XD

  • Reese Burns

    I think Soilwork are the tits, but Demon Hunter is a band I’ve never been able to get into. That being said, they absolutely deserve a review here (ironically enough, since the other day I was complaining about too much post metal).

  • lennymccall

    Believing in Satan is as idiotic as believing in Christ so:
    Behemoth + Demon Hunter = Pussies
    That said I love them both, so win win for me!

    • Sean Sky

      Satanists don’t necessarily believe in Satan. I’m not too knowledgeable on Satanism but I believe it’s more of a mindset than a deity worship. I also think a lot of the Satan stuff in metal is just meant to convey an image instead of something to be taken seriously (at least that’s​ how I see it). Well… Unless you’re Deathspell Omega…

      • lennymccall

        Yeah you’re probably right. I just think it’s hilarious that hardcore heads get all butt hurt about me liking Christian metal bands equally as much as evil whatever worshiping bands. It’s all fantasy to me so I really don’t even pay attention to what their singing about.

        • basenjibrian

          The major problem with “Christian” metal bands is that they (generally) suck. Partly because American worship music in particular is just so bland and banal. Give me an old hymn over the typical stuff being burbled today.
          That said, I totally agree with your major point. Even though I consider Christianity a very morally questionable ideology, I can overlook that as there are thoughtful, heavy bands out there. (Still love My Silent Wake!). Just like I don’t really like the misanthropic, often Naziesque ideologies behind many Satanic bands.

          • lennymccall

            Yeah you’re probably right about the majority of christian metal/music. I just don’t let it effect my tastes for any kind music. Keeps me open to check out anyone till I hear them and it blows then I’m out.
            Never heard MSW, I’ll check it out.

        • Sean Sky

          I’ll be honest… I have a definite bias against bands that list themselves as Christian. Like you say, it’s a bit of a contradiction but I get turned off if I see that title. I don’t​ mind if a band uses biblical themes (because biblical themes make great material for pretty much anything) I just don’t like the pushiness of including your religious beliefs in the genre of your music. Would be the same if someone claimed to be making vegan metal.

          • Rüdiger Thiede

            Yeah, well… I have a bias against bands that list themselves as Christian, and I’m Christian. Self-described “Christian music” tends towards being generic and uninspired.

            I think part of it is that Christians are reluctant to criticize a Christian band because they feel that they are then also disagreeing with its message. Which is a dumb way to think about it IMO, but it’s one reason why Christian bands generally have an easier time when it comes to criticism from their target audience.

            Also, a lot of Christian bands (even the heavier ones) come from a background of being the worship leader at their church or something, which means that they overestimate their own talent because they had no competition. Not that playing the bland styrofoam that passes for “music” in modern churches requires much in the way of talent anyway.

            Heavier Christian bands tend to fare a lot better than “Christian rock,” though. If your music is heavy enough, you won’t corner the soccer mom market anyway, so you may as well go big.

          • lennymccall

            Ha I would be offended by Vegan metal as well. Well probably not but I hear you on an agenda being pushed through music of any kind. But generally I tend to not pay any attention to what is being “said” and just listen to the jams. I’m easy like that, keeps me from getting all jaded and wound up about everything.

    • [not a Dr]

      It’s about time someone announces their love of pussy.

  • SegaGenitals

    I’m gonna jam this shit all the way to Sunday school.

  • Belgian Tom’s Hat Trick

    I think it’s great that a band with a different outlook than satanism is being reviewed here. I never thought Metal had to be satanic to be metal. It gets so very old hearing and seeing all the satanic propaganda from so many bands. The propaganda focused on Christ and Christianity hating. Never read or hear about Islam hating, Buddist hating, etc… and if you focus on the Jewish faith… well, then, you’ll hear about it to say the least. What I’m saying is if you’re satanic, just be equal opportunity haters. Christians can have some great tunes, too. Good on AMG and Diabolous for going where other Metal sites fear to tread.

  • Rüdiger Thiede

    … what’s “Overcome”? You mean “Outlive,” right?

  • John W. Baylor

    The new CD is amazing epic.

  • jersey devil

    No Zodiac was much better than this.

  • If extreme metal started to make some impact in the mainstream and Simon Cowell decided to capitalise on it, I think it would sound something like this.

  • A nu-metal / metalcore album with no originality and nothing new… gets 3.5? You opened the door which should be kept closed…