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  • beurbs

    What is post-black metal?

    • tomasjacobi

      Black metal that gets mailed to you.

      • Well, close. It’s short for post dated black metal.

    • André Snyde Lopes

      It what happens when you paint a street light black.

    • It’s whatever song comes on after Mayhem when you set your entire library to random playback. In other words, who really knows?

      • Juan Manuel Pinto Guerra


    • Juan Manuel Pinto Guerra

      In this context the word “post” means after. In my humble opinion (which is usually right) it means nothing to describe a music genre.
      Post-punk? Used lazily to describe a bunch of artists that had nothing in common except for becoming popular after the initial explosion of punk’s popularity.
      Post-rock? Used to describe bands that play guitars but don’t play rock.
      Post-black? Some lazy ass Metal journalist read too many Non-Metal reviews and thought it would be a good idea to throw the “Post” descriptor on Black Metal.

      • SegaGenitals

        I moslty agree that these genre tags merely ape tropes of academic literary criticism. I do however still get some mileage out of post-rock as a descriptor, as rebuttal to traditional radio-friendly hooky tracks, and embracing long instrumental driven pieces with slow development requiring patience to enjoy.

        • beurbs

          So prog then

          • SegaGenitals

            Guess the shoe fits there too. I hereby declare all post 2010 prog nü prog.

    • Usually used as label for bands that used some post-rock tenets mixed with black metal. It came to be used as an umbrella term for bands that experiment with mixing black metal with other non metal music or even just instruments.

      • beurbs

        Ok then what is post-rock?

        • It is a label for music that use similar instrumentation to rock music (mainly distorted electric guitars) but with non-traditional-to-rock song structures. Mainly it can focus on texturing and layering instruments and voice (if used) instead of focusing on melodic forms.

          Post-metal and Post-black (also called blackgaze, cascadian and some other labels sometimes) can borrow some ideas on texturing/layering from post-rock but usually retain more traditional song structures and will also keep melodies on higher focus.

          For an easy example on post-rock look for the Goodspeed You! Black Emperor record “Lift your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven” You will immediately notice the heavy and atypical instrumentation and protracted song structures more common on chamber music. You also get long tracks divided in “movements”. But you still have distorted electric guitars and drumming used for high effect like you would get in traditional rock.

          • beurbs

            Sounds like prog

          • What is “Prog”, though.

          • beurbs

            What u just described

          • Really? Then I suck at describing music. Ignore me please.

          • beurbs

            What no I thought that was a good description

    • In musical genres, “post-” usually means “pretentious and hipstery.”
      Tends to result in music that is either amazing or total garbage, with little middle ground.
      Just my opinion, of course.

    • Monotone, shoegazing tremolo-picking metal that’s going just about nowhere. Can be done good (Alcest). Can be rather lame and boring (almost everyone else). My humble opinion? Nah, ain’t that an objective fact?

  • Alexandre Barata

    Oh man you’re so wrong with this one. Not in the part that this is boring,that it is, as the debut was, but in saying Winterfylleth is more boring than this. Winterfylleth can create very nice atmospheres, and while they drag a lot themselves, they’re no way more boring than Wayfarer. This band is lacking on the guitar, and on, well, everything else.

    Other than that comparison, you’re spot on

    • AlphaBetaFoxface

      Threnody was an awesome album imo. They aren’t the kings of their craft, but “boring” is a serious overstatement. Wayfarer are a chore of a band.

      Two of us agree so your subjective opinion must be rendered objectively invalid. Or something like that.

      • Alexandre Barata

        They’re not boring in a sense of making boring music, but in the sense that they can’t keep their albums shorter than a hour (which is a stretch for something with so little variation). Drudkh got the formula spot on, although they made it longer with their last album.

        My opinion is objectively fine, and subjectively great!

    • Blueberry Balls

      Calling Winterfylleth boring has all but destroyed your metal cred. I still love you guys though!

  • Meat Tornado

    Called Winterfylleth boring, completely invalid article.

    • Feytalist

      They had nothing on Wodensthrone, that’s for certain.

      Still annoyed at their breakup.

      • Curse had some really heavy rotation time for me back in 2012

  • SegaGenitals

    Nice art direction on the album cover.

  • RobbinBri

    Make Them Suffer called, they want their album title back. :P